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> From *this* observers standpoint, being naieve about the > funkiness of the MAC-layer > control and management messages, I see it as simply > extruding a generic security > transform (SDE) into the MAC-layer by rearranging the bits > to fit, and tweaking > the key management to work "right". But many 'funk MAC control and management messages' are not amenable to being protected. The messages can be controlling the link set-up in ways that preceed the ability to send data. There may also be no reason to protect these messages.