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 Mick, 
I 
think that is exactly what I'm proposing for the Handoff group. 2 entities, one 
on the controlled port and one on the uncontrolled port. They may actually be 
the same entity with an attachment to both LSAPs, that is 
TBD. 
  
The 
reasoning is that it benefits from all the goodness that EAPoL benefits from. 
802 Media independence and a clear definition of the security state of the 
system (port open/ port closed). 
  
In my 
model, it would be a policy decision as to what information or services were 
available on which port. Obviously some information would need to be secured and 
some information, such as say service advertisments ("Come to my base station, 
Cheap bandwidth here!") would be better unsecured and available 
expediently. 
  
The 
answer to the question of whether we can retrofit such a clean architecture into 
802[11] is I believe 'yes' and yes its definition should be orthogonal to 
linksec. If it is not possible, watch the handoff group crash and burn 
:-). 
  
Regards, 
DJ 
  
David Johnston Intel Corporation Chair, IEEE 802 Handoff 
ECSG
  Email : dj.johnston@intel.com Tel   : 503 380 5578 
(Mobile) Tel   : 503 264 3855 (Office)  
  
  
  The 
  general solution to this class of issues seems fairly clear. Provide/define a 
  protocol entity that attaches to the/an Uncontrolled Port that is providing 
  the attachment point for the roving station. 
    
  Apart from the fact that that entity appears to need 
  to be able to read the current status of the Authorized/Controlled Port 
  (really as an optimization so that it doesn't have to conduct its own further 
  checks to guide its behavior - another and possibly better solution might be 
  to partition the overall functionality between such an entity and a companion 
  one that ataches to the Authorized Port, or to define an entity which attaches 
  to both), its definition ought to be orthogonal to 
LinkSec. 
    
  Clearly with a roving type technology where ports 
  come and go an association (also quite properly known as a Port) needs to be 
  in place for such an entity to communicate with the roving station. That 
  association doesn't have to be secure however. 
    
    
  Wired world: 
    
  Uncontrolled     
  Authorized 
    
  Port  \      /    Port 
  (secured association) 
           
  \    / 
            SecY 
             
  | 
           Port 
  (lower MSAP) 
                        
  | 
    
  Unwired world: 
    
  
  Uncontrolled     
  Authorized 
    
  Port  \      /    
  Port 
           
  \    / 
            SecY 
             
  | 
           Association 
                        
  |  
    
    
  Mick 
    
  [I'm 
  not saying that one can retrofit such a clean architecture to 802.11 as 
  currently defined.] 
    
    
  
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