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RE: [802SEC] REFLECTOR SPAMMING




Vic,  Hmmmm ...  That has not been my experience.  My list (802-ALL) is moderated.  
My email client adds a blank line.  And approve works fine for me.  Not sure what the 
problem might be that you are seeing.  
Thanx,  Buzz
Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
Boeing - SSG
PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
Seattle, WA  98324-2207
(425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
> ----------
> From: 	Hayes, Vic (Vic)[SMTP:vichayes@agere.com]
> Sent: 	Thursday, June 28, 2001 12:08 AM
> To: 	reflector 802.0; i Ohara, Bob
> Cc: 	IEEE Postoffice; sa-admin@ieee.org
> Subject: 	RE: [802SEC] REFLECTOR SPAMMING
> All,
> In addition to the time delay, there is an additional time and nuisance factor for the moderator involved.
> Most of the mail-clients add a blank line before the message. The IEEE majordomo ONLY looks in the 
> first line for the Approve command. Hence, you can not easily forward a message as the moderator. 
> You first have to change the configuration to unmoderated, then send the message (hope that nobody 
> slips in a message) and the to change the configuration back to moderated.
> Regards
> Vic Hayes
> Agere Systems Nederland B.V., formerly Lucent Technologies 
> Zadelstede 1-10
> 3431 JZ  Nieuwegein, the Netherlands
> Phone: +31 30 609 7528 (Time Zone UTC + 2)
> FAX: +31 30 609 7498
> e-mail: vichayes@agere.com
> http://www.orinocowireless.com/
> 	From: 	Bob O'Hara[SMTP:bob@informed-technology.com]
> 	Sent: 	28 June 2001 2:30 AM
> 	To: 	stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> 	Cc: 	postoffice@ieee.org; sa-admin@ieee.org
> 	Subject: 	RE: [802SEC] REFLECTOR SPAMMING
> 	Ahem... I, for one do NOT want this to be a moderated list.  The time
> 	between a list user sending a message and me being able to approve it to
> 	send to the list might become excessive.
> 	 -Bob
> 	-----Original Message-----
> 	From: owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org
> 	[mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Rigsbee,
> 	Everett O
> 	Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 5:25 PM
> 	To: stuart.kerry@philips.com; Buzz@PSS; 802 Pat Thaler
> 	Cc: postoffice@ieee.org; sa-admin@ieee.org; stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> 	Subject: RE: [802SEC] REFLECTOR SPAMMING
> 	Pat,  It's much easier to just turn on the control that only allows people
> 	on the List to post to the list.  Since we control who's on the list it will
> 	effectively remove all spam.  Another option is to make the list moderated
> 	so that Bob O'Hara as list owner see all attempts to post to the list by
> 	non-members and can approve or discard before forwarding takes place.
> 	We don't need to engineering a lot of special filters, at least not for this list.
> 	Thanx,  Buzz
> 	Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
> 	Boeing - SSG
> 	PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
> 	Seattle, WA  98324-2207
> 	(425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
> 	everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
> 	> From: 	THALER,PAT (A-Roseville,ex1)[SMTP:pat_thaler@agilent.com]
> 	> Sent: 	Wednesday, June 27, 2001 1:52 PM
> 	> To: 	stuart.kerry@philips.com; Everett.Rigsbee@PSS.Boeing.com
> 	> Cc: 	postoffice@ieee.org; sa-admin@ieee.org; stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> 	> Subject: 	RE: [802SEC] REFLECTOR SPAMMING
> 	> The IEEE reflector does have the ability to filter on various parameters
> 	> such as address or text in the message. Occasionally something slips
> 	through
> 	> onto the 802.3 reflector but our diligent vice-chair David Law adds
> 	filters
> 	> to the reflector so it doesn't keep happening. IEEE can help but someone
> 	on
> 	> the Exec would have to take responsibility for deciding what should be
> 	> filtered. That person also receives the bounced messages because
> 	> occasionally a legitimate message gets bounced because it contains a
> 	> suspicious word and someone needs to check and forward to the reflector
> 	the
> 	> incorrectly bounced messages.
> 	> Pat
> 	> -----Original Message-----
> 	> From: stuart.kerry@philips.com [mailto:stuart.kerry@philips.com> ]
> 	> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 6:12 PM
> 	> To: Everett.Rigsbee@PSS.Boeing.com
> 	> Cc: postoffice@ieee.org; sa-admin@ieee.org; stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> 	> Subject: [802SEC] REFLECTOR SPAMMING
> 	> SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM (and the English amongst us will understand this...)
> 	> Buzz,
> 	> Unfortunately, this is now not only a problem restricted to the 802 Exec
> 	> reflector. Now it occurring on the dot 11 (stds-802-11@ieee.org) and dot
> 	15
> 	> (stds-802-15@ieee.org) reflectors too, and can only get worse as time
> 	> expands. The computer generators are going through sequence after sequence
> 	> down the DNS / IP chain, and will inevitably infect us all.
> 	> IEEE REFLECTOR POSTOFFICE & ADMIN HELP....... NOW !!!
> 	> - Stuart J. Kerry
> 	> Chair, IEEE 802.11 WG
> 	> Attached is my vCard for Contact Information:
> 	> -----Original Message-----
> 	> From: Rigsbee, Everett O [mailto:Everett.Rigsbee@PSS.Boeing.com]
> 	> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 14:44
> 	> To: 802 Exec
> 	> Subject: FW: Re: [802SEC] Web Hosting 100 megs for $9.95 a month !!
> 	> Now this is truly 100% SPAM, and once it starts, it goes on and on.
> 	> I still recommend we restrict this list to Post-by-Members-Only, with
> 	> the clearly communicated option that any 802 member who believes
> 	> he has a messages that needs to go to the whole SEC can send it to
> 	> his chair for forwarding as appropriate.  End of problem.
> 	> Thanx,  Buzz
> 	> Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
> 	> Boeing - SSG
> 	> PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
> 	> Seattle, WA  98324-2207
> 	> (425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
> 	> everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
> 	> > ----------
> 	> > From: 	Hosting@yourdomain.com[SMTP:Hosting@yourdomain.com]
> 	> > Sent: 	Monday, June 25, 2001 4:37 PM
> 	> > To: 	stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> 	> > Subject: 	[802SEC] Web Hosting 100 megs for $9.95 a month !!
> 	> >
> 	> > This message uses a character set that is not supported by the Internet
> 	> Service.
> 	> > To view the original message content,  open the attached message.
> 	> > If the text doesn't display correctly, save the attachment to disk, and
> 	> then
> 	> > open it using a viewer that can display the original character set.
> 	> > >  <<message.txt>>
> 	> >
> 	>
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