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Re: [LinkSec] linksec roadmap




Russ Housley wrote:
> 
> A bit of history.
> 
> When the VLAN standard began, several people advocated the use of SDE
> (802.10b) as the protocol.  Cisco wan the most vocal proponent.  There were
> a whole bunch of people that were concerned that the encryption overhead
> would be too great.  The initial response to this was to specify the
> Identity encryption function.  In this case, the key identifier would
> provide the VLAN identifier.
> 
> After a few months, the wind direction changed, and the VLAN proposal that
> we all know was adopted.
> 
> The recently posted roadmap essentially proposes a return to the original
> proposal.
> 
> Russ
What was it about 802.10 that caused it to be a failure?  I'm anticipating that
  the answer is the key-management layer (GULS?).

The roadmap had me somewhat confused, and maybe it's because I don't really
  understand what the *application space* of VLANs is.  But it seems to me
  that a LAN segment with a group-shared key suffers from the same problems as
  a completely unsecured LAN segment--I can spy on my neighbours, and forge
  traffic.  Having a single key that is shared among 500 of my nearest and
  dearest is like having no key at all.  Granted, I won't be able to forge
  traffic on a *different* VLAN, but that's only slightly better than nothing
  at all.  But maybe that's not what Dennis intended?


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