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Re: [RPRWG] Propose the Amendment to Draft P802.17/D1.1 from Huawei



Dear President Love,
 
Very glad to accept your suggestion.
We would like you to submit this comment for our contribution.
 
Thanks,
 
Liu Enhui
Li Jian
Huawei technologies CO.,LTD.
----- Original Message -----
Cc: 802.17
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [RPRWG] Propose the Amendment to Draft P802.17/D1.1 from Huawei

Dear Enhui Liu,
 
It is always best if a non-voter that has an important comment can (1) attend a Working Group meeting and present a strong case for your comment, and (2) find a voting member to strongly support that comment and submit it.  In the absence of finding such a supporter, the next best procedure is to find any voting member to submit the comment.  Some of the IEEE 802 groups designate a voting member to collect input from non-voters and submit those comments as there own.  Such submission guarantees that the contributions are reviewed by the Working Group.  I volunteer to do that for your contribution.  Let me suggest that I believe the best way of submitting such a comment would be to state:
 
Problem Statement: 
In Clause 11 the Wrap function is not properly implemented.
 
Proposed Solution:
Using the Huawei contribution posted in Enhui Li's December 10 email "[RPRWG] Propose the Amendment to Draft P802.17/D1.1 from Huawei",
1) Incorporate the functions specified in the draft's section "Replace the 11.7.3 with the following:" into Draft 2.0 Clause 11.8.3.  In addition, align the state machine presented in Table 11.5 with Table 11.6 in the proposed amendment.
 
If you would like me to submit this comment please send me an email stating that you would like me to do that.  If you have proposed changes to the way the comment is submitted, please let me know that as well.
 
Best regards,
 
Robert D. Love
President, Resilient Packet Ring Alliance
President, LAN Connect Consultants
7105 Leveret Circle     Raleigh, NC 27615
Phone: 919 848-6773       Mobile: 919 810-7816
email: rdlove@xxxxxxxx          Fax: 208 978-1187
----- Original Message -----
From: Enhui Liu
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [RPRWG] Propose the Amendment to Draft P802.17/D1.1 from Huawei

Dear President Love,
 
Thank for your instruction about the strict procedure. Sorry, we don't intent to break the WG's rules and rights.We just want to give some helpful comments to improve the 802.17 draft, but obviously we take the wrong way.It's difficult and costly to us to attend the January interim meeting.
 
Do only members have the right to post comments to the draft on the 802.17 website? How to give comments as an individual?
 
 
Regards,
Liu Enhui
Li Jian
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [RPRWG] Propose the Amendment to Draft P802.17/D1.1 from Huawei

To:
Liu Enhui and
Li Jian
 
First I want to thank you and your team for continuing to look into ways to improve the 802.17 draft.  In addition, I want to address the procedural issues surrounding your request to have your proposal reviewed, and then to receive a response on that review.  I am addressing these issues for your benefit, and for the benefit of others that may have ideas on improving the 802.17 draft and are not certain on the best way to proceed to get their comments seriously considered.
 
All changes to the draft will be made as a result of resolving ballot comments.  Any balloters that support your proposal are free to point to sections of the draft they believe are currently deficient or wrong, and suggest your draft, or some modification of it as replacement text.  In addition, if any of the Ad Hoc groups embraces your proposal they may take it and possibly enhance it, and then present it as their collective proposal, in addition to referencing the proposal in their ballot comments on the draft. 
 
There is no individual or sub-group that has the right to express the views of the working group on a proposal that the working group has not reviewed and commented on by way of a formal motion.
 
Finally, one additional action that you can take to enhance the likelihood that your proposal will be carefully considered is to come to the January interim meeting and make a formal presentation on your proposal, explaining why it is necessary and what the resultant benefits are.  This final step should be in addition to having someone submit a ballot comment recommending the adoption of your proposal.
 
Note, details on registering for the January interim meeting, including making hotel reservations, are posted on
 
Best regards,
 
Robert D. Love
President, Resilient Packet Ring Alliance
President, LAN Connect Consultants
7105 Leveret Circle     Raleigh, NC 27615
Phone: 919 848-6773       Mobile: 919 810-7816
email: rdlove@xxxxxxxx          Fax: 208 978-1187
----- Original Message -----
From: Enhui Liu
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 9:24 PM
Subject: [RPRWG] Propose the Amendment to Draft P802.17/D1.1 from Huawei

Hi, all,
 
Our team have some comments on draft P802.17/D1.1.
Maybe Draft 2.0 will be released soon, but I think this still will be significant.
Please review and answer it. Thank you very much.
 
Introduction to the attached proposal:
In the IEEE802.17 Draft D1.1, there are two kinds of wrap mode i.e. center wrap and edge wrap. Under the center wrap mode, the both sides of one station should make wrapping simultaneously, or there will be a wrong mode that will lead to packets lost. And normally for the two sides of one station, the state diagram are being executed independently and in parallel. So there should been a lot of communication between two sides. So we give a detail implement of state diagram based on  upon condition, including clear message sending and receiving between two sides of one station.
 
Regards,
Liu Enhui
Li Jian
Huawei technologies CO.,LTD.