IEEE 802.3 100 Mb/s Long-Reach Single Pair Ethernet Task Force Files

May 2022 - current


Task Force meeting materials

The next meeting of the Task Force is an ad hoc opportunity.  An ad hoc may be called 1 week in advance, if there is a presenter who requests.  Meetings are nominally Wednesday 7-9 pacific.  Opportunities are:  weeks of 3/27, 4/3, 4/17, and 5/1.  Please see slide 35 of Agenda 01b for the March plenary for details.

The next scheduled meeting is at the IEEE 802.3 Interim Meeting Series (in-person w/remote access) in Annapolis, Maryland USA May 13-17.  Registration and a fee is required.  See https://www.ieee802.org/3/interims/index.html for details.

Also please see the IEEE 802.3 Calendar at http://www.ieee802.org/3/calendar.html for teleconference information.

Title

Author

Affilliation

May 24, 2022

Agenda (01a)

George Zimmerman (chair)

CME Consulting/various1

Confirmed Minutes

Bob Voss

Panduit

100BASE-T1L for Motor Feedback Communication

Dayin Xu

Rockwell Automation

June 22, 2022

Agenda (01)

George Zimmerman (chair)

CME Consulting/various1

Confirmed Minutes

Valerie Maguire

Siemon Co.

Building signal integrity for PWM disturbed SPE links

Peter Fischer

BKS Kabel-Service AG

July 13, 2022- Plenary

Agenda (01a) (includes notes on discussion of noise & timeline)

George Zimmerman (chair)

CME Consulting/various1

Confirmed Minutes

Bob Voss

Panduit

Peter Jones

Cisco Systems

Building signal integrity for PWM disturbed SPE links

Peter Fischer

BKS Kabel-Service AG

Standardization activities related to servo drives

Bernd Horrmeyer

Phoenix Contact, GmbH CoKG

IEEE 802.3dg –Noise Environment Definition

Piergiorgio Beruto

OnSemi

Preliminary Timeline (added based on meeting discussion)

George Zimmerman (chair)

CME Consulting/various1

August 17, 2022

Agenda (01a)

George Zimmerman (chair)

CME Consulting/various1

Confirmed Minutes

Peter Jones

Cisco Systems

Cable and cabling capabilities to suppress differential and common mode noise

Peter Fischer

BKS Kabel-Service AG

Downshift

Peter Jones

Cisco Systems

August 31, 2022

Agenda (01a)

George Zimmerman (chair)

CME Consulting/various1

Confirmed Minutes (r1)

Bob Voss

Panduit

100BASE-T1L Long Reach Link Segment Ideas

Steffen Graber

Pepperl+Fuchs

September 13, 2022 – Interim meeting

Agenda (01)

George Zimmerman (chair)

CME Consulting/various1

Confirmed Minutes

Peter Jones

Cisco Systems

PWM Noise and Its Induced Differential Noise

Dayin Xu

Rockwell Automation

EMC Test Method for Servo Drive System with Hybrid Motor Cable

Dayin Xu

Rockwell Automation

Preliminary Timeline (for discussion)

George Zimmerman (chair)

CME Consulting/various1

October 12, 2022

Agenda (01a)

George Zimmerman (chair)

CME Consulting/various1

Confirmed Minutes

Bob Voss

Panduit

Return loss and coupling attenuation: key parameters for 100BASE-T1L; IL proposal for building automation (version 01 - submitted)

Dieter Schicketanz
Peter Fischer
Matthias Fritsche

Reutlingen University
HARTING Technology Gp
BKS-Kable Service AG

Return loss and coupling attenuation: key parameters for 100BASE-T1L; IL proposal for building automation (version 01a - updated after presentation)

Dieter Schicketanz
Matthias Fritsche
Peter Fischer

Reutlingen University
HARTING Technology Gp
BKS-Kable Service AG

October 24, 2022

Agenda (01)

George Zimmerman (chair)

CME Consulting/various1

Confirmed Minutes

Bob Voss

Panduit

Agenda (01)

George Zimmerman (chair)

CME Consulting/various1

Confirmed Minutes

Bob Voss

Panduit

Baseline considerations of link segment & PHY modulation

Tong Mu, Yan Zhuang

Huawei,

PHY Analysis Relative to Link Segment

George Zimmerman (as an individual)

CME Consulting/various1

Characterizing installed cabling structures for target applications (version a – updated based on feedback)

Peter Jones

Cisco Systems

November  16, 2022 - Plenary

Agenda (01c) (updated)

George Zimmerman (chair)

CME Consulting/various1

Motions

George Zimmerman (chair)

CME Consulting/various1

Confirmed minutes 16 Nov 2022

Clark Carty

Cisco Systems

Method for Restricting Micro-Reflections

Ragnar Jonsson

Marvell

SPE TIA Specification References (rev)

Chris Diminico

PHY-SI / MC Communications/SenTekSe

Thoughts on Cable AWG

Stephan Schreiner

Rosenberger

Contribution to IEC/IEEE 60802 concerning profiling of IEEE 802.3 (use 802.3 private area credentials)

Ludwig Winkel

L.A.N. Winkel Consulting

100BASE-T1L for Motor Feedback Communication Update (rev)

Dayin Xu

Rockwell Automation

Hybrid Motor Cable Evaluation

Michal Brychta,
Hector Alberti Arroyo,
Jürgen Funkhänel,
Marc Lanigra

Analog Devices
Analog Devices
Sick AG
Sick AG

Possible Installation Changes for 100BASE-T1L

Steffen Graber

Pepperl+Fuchs

Link Segment Proposal

Wayne Larsen

CommScope

802.3dg Link Segment Considerations

Chris Diminico

PHY-SI/MC Communications/SenTekSe

APL Measurements of NEXT/RL to 100 MHz

Bernd Horrmeyer

Phoenix Contact

Hazardous Area Requirements including 2-WISE

Steffen Graber

Pepperl+Fuchs

Process Industry view of 100BASE-T1L APL use case (rev)

Harald Mueller

Endress-Hauser

December 14, 2022

Agenda (01)

George Zimmerman (chair)

CME Consulting/various1

Confirmed Minutes

Bob Voss

Panduit

Further considerations on IL motion and implications for other parameters

Dieter Schicketanz
Matthias Fritsche
Peter Fischer

Reutlingen University
HARTING Technology Gp
BKS-Kable Service AG

Link Segment Ideas

Wayne Larsen

CommScope

AWG16 and AWG14 Cable Measurements

Steffen Graber

Pepperl+Fuchs

Excel data file - AWG16 and AWG14 cable measurements

Steffen Graber

Pepperl+Fuchs

January 18, 2023 - Interim

Agenda (01)

George Zimmerman (chair)

CME Consulting/various1

Confirmed Minutes

Bob Voss

Panduit

Proposals to improve link (segment) definition

Dieter Schicketanz
Peter Fischer

Reutlingen University
BKS-Kable Service AG

Terminal Block Measurements

Steffen Graber

Pepperl+Fuchs

500m 18 AWG SPE Channel

Bob Voss

Panduit

SNR Margin Analysis of 802.3dg (revised 1/18 for presentation)

Tingting Zhang, Yan Zhuang, Tong Mu

Huawei

March 15-16, 2023 - Plenary

Agenda (01b)

George Zimmerman (chair)

CME Consulting/various1

Confirmed Minutes

Bob Voss

Panduit

Confirmed CORRECTED minutes

Bob Voss

Panduit

Motions

George Zimmerman (chair)

CME Consulting/various1

PSANEXT, PSAACR-F and RL Proposal

Steffen Graber

Pepperl+Fuchs

Insertion Loss Proposal

Steffen Graber

Pepperl+Fuchs

Getting to a less demanding Link Segment (rev a)

Steffen Graber

Pepperl+Fuchs

Preliminary PHY Analysis on Updated Link Segment Specifications in graber_3dg_xx_03152023 (Rev a) (LATE)

George Zimmerman

CME Consulting/various1

SNR Margin Analysis with Updated Link Parameters (LATE) (rev a)

Tingting Zhang,
Yan Zhuang,
Tong Mu

Huawei Technologies

PHY Enhancement for 100BASE-T1L

Tong Mu,
Yan Zhuang, Tingting Zhang

Huawei

March 29, 2023

Agenda

George Zimmerman (chair)

CME Consulting/various1

Confirmed Minutes

Bob Voss

Panduit

Coupling attenuation and TCL requirement proposals for 100BASE-T1L

Peter Fischer

BKS Kabel-Service AG

Straw Polls

Peter Fischer

BKS Kabel-Service AG

Consideration on the PHY Baseline for 802.3dg

Tingting Zhang,
Yan Zhuang,
Tong Mu

Huawei Technologies

May 17, 2023 - Interim

Agenda (01c)

George Zimmerman (chair)

CME Consulting/various1

Confirmed Minutes

Bob Voss

Panduit

Motions

George Zimmerman (chair)

CME Consulting/various1

EFT Pulse Measurements (01a)

Steffen Graber, Cornelius Herget, Felix Höflich

Pepperl+Fuchs

Link Segment Motions (rev a)

Wayne Larsen

CommScope

Revisiting of Alien specifications and coupling attenuation for screened links (01a)

Peter Fischer

BKS Kabel-Service AG

Additional link segment motions

Peter Fischer

BKS Kabel-Service AG

IEEE 802.3dg – Need for a new MII? (revised v1p1)

Piergiorgio Beruto

On Semiconductor

Continuous N PSANEXT Correction (spreadsheet)

James Withey

Fluke Networks

June 17, 2023 - Interim

Agenda (01a)

George Zimmerman (chair)

CME Consulting/various1

Confirmed Minutes

Bob Voss

Panduit

802.dg Link and Alien Crosstalk Performance

Ron Tellas

Belden

PHY Analysis on Alien Crosstalk Proposal from May 2023 (rev a)

George Zimmerman

CME Consulting/various1

July 11, 2023 - Plenary

Agenda (01a)

George Zimmerman (chair)

CME Consulting/various1

Confirmed Minutes

Bob Voss

Panduit

Motions

George Zimmerman (chair)

CME Consulting/various1

100BASE-T1L Coupling Attenuation

Steffen Graber

Pepperl+Fuchs

Mitigation of Alien Crosstalk

Ron Tellas

Belden

(Next-Level) PHY Considerations for 100BASE-T1L

Brian Murray,

Analog Devices

Michal Brychta

Analog Devices

Thoughts on the new MII

Dongcheng Pan, Tingting Zhang,
Yan Zhuang

Huawei Technologies

September 13, 2023 – Interim

Agenda

George Zimmerman (chair)

CME Consulting/various1

Confirmed Minutes

Bob Voss

Panduit

Signal Integrity and Terminal Blocks (rev b)

Bernd Horrmeyer

Phoenix Contact

Cable Termination For Alien Crosstalk Mitigation (revised 9/10)

Francois Beauregard,
Ron Tellas, Virak Siev, Michael Bodzay

Belden

Further Consideration on the new MII

Tingting Zhang, Dongcheng Pan,
Yan Zhuang

Huawei

Overall consideration on 802.3dg PHY

Tingting Zhang,
Sen Zhang,
Yan Zhuang,
Tong Mu

Huawei Technologies

Draft Liaison Letter to ISO/IEC JTC1 SC25 WG3 (revised by 802.3da)

George Zimmerman (chair)

CME Consulting/various1

October 25, 2023 – ad hoc

Agenda

George Zimmerman (chair)

CME Consulting/various1

Confirmed Minutes

Bob Voss

Panduit

802.3dg PHY Baseline

Tingting Zhang, Dongcheng Pan,
Yan Zhuang,
Tong Mu

Huawei Technologies

November 15-16, 2023 – 802 Plenary

Agenda (01a)

George Zimmerman (chair)

CME Consulting/various1

Confirmed Minutes

Bob Voss

Panduit

Enhanced SMII Proposal

William Lo

Axonne

Cable Insertion Loss Measured using “PAM3” Signal

Michal Brychta,
Niall Fitzgerald

Analog Devices

Modulation format for 802.3dg

Tingting Zhang, Dongcheng Pan,
Yan Zhuang, Tong Mu

Huawei Technologies

IEEE 802.3dg 100BASE-T1L PHY Time Domain Simulations

Brian Murray, Phillip Curran

Analog Devices

Working Session – Path forward for PHY decisions (rev 01a)

George Zimmerman

CME Consulting/various1

January 10, 2024 –ad hoc

Agenda (01a)

George Zimmerman (chair)

CME Consulting/various1

Confirmed Minutes

Bob Voss

Panduit

Latency Analysis

William Lo

Axonne

January 25, 2024 – 802.3 Interim

Agenda (01b)
(including PHY work items from meeting discussion & revised next meeting dates)

George Zimmerman (chair)

CME Consulting/various1

Confirmed Minutes

Bob Voss

Panduit

Low Latency and Long Reach PHY Proposals

William Lo

Axonne

Experimental results on 100 Base-T1 PHY delays

Jingcong Sun

Motorcomm

IEEE P802.3dg
IEC 61000-4-4 Interference Waveform

David D. Brandt

Dr. Julie Haihui Lu

Dayin Xu

Wojciech Koczwara

Rockwell Automation

Consideration on the solutions to low latency, intrinsic safety, and long reach

Tingting Zhang
Dongcheng Pan,
Yan Zhuang

Huawei Technologies

IEEE P802.3dg 100BASE-T1L PHY Time Domain Simulations (01a)

Brian Murray

Analog Devices

802.3 MII Options - Past, Present, and Proposals for the Future

Jason Potterf

Cisco Systems

February 7, 2024 – ad hoc

Agenda (01a)

George Zimmerman (chair)

CME Consulting/various1

Confirmed minutes

Bob Voss

Panduit

Materials proposed for PHY evaluations:

AWGN Noise models for PHY Evaluation (01a)

Corrected & clarified post presentation  (01b)

 

Excel noise PSDs (.xlsx)

George Zimmerman

CME Consulting/various1

18AWG SPE S-Parameters
LT Spice RLCG spice models of cabling (zip file)

Bob Voss & Paul Wachtel

Panduit

100BASE-T1L MDI Circuit Suggestions

Steffen Graber
Michal Brychta

Pepperl+Fuchs
Analog Devices

100BASE-T1L MDI LT Spice Models (zip)

Steffen Graber
Michal Brychta

Pepperl+Fuchs
Analog Devices

18AWG Cable S-parameters (500 m.)

(excel)

François Beauregard

Belden

Other Presentations

Coupling Attenuation & Burst test on balanced cables and cabling systems

Ralf Tillmanns

Weidmüller

February 28, 2024 - interim

Agenda (01a)

George Zimmerman (chair)

CME Consulting/various1

Unconfirmed minutes

Bob Voss

Panduit

IEEE P802.3dg 100BASE-T1L PHY Time Domain Simulations (updated, as presented w/typo fix)

Brian Murray

Analog Devices

Application driven view on Burst & Coupling Attenuation for links

Ralf Tillmanns
Peter Fischer

Weidmüller
BKS Kabel-Service

March 11, 2024 – IEEE 802 Plenary – Denver, CO USA

Agenda (01c)
(Updated with meeting plan for May)

George Zimmerman (chair)

CME Consulting/various1

Unconfirmed minutes

Bob Voss

Panduit

IEEE P802.3dg 100BASE-T1L Impulse Noise Measurements on Cables (updated)

Michal Brychta, Brian Murray, Philip Curran

Analog Devices

Time domain simulation for different AWGN models

Tingting Zhang

Huawei Technologies

IEEE P802.3dg 100BASE-T1L PHY Time Domain Simulations (updated)


(2nd update with slides from PHY discussion)

Brian Murray, Michal Brychta, Philip Curran

Analog Devices

Adding Sequence Ordered Set to MII

William Lo

Axonne

MII to SMII Proposal

William Lo

Axonne

Motor Feedback Communication Cable Parameters (LATE)

Dayin Xu

Rockwell Automation

Ethernet MII Interfaces Refinement of Previous Proposals (LATE – updated with straw polls)

Jason Potterf

Cisco Systems

1. Prior to August 17,2022: APL Group, Cisco Systems, CommScope, Marvell, SenTekSe

August 17,2022 – June 7, 2023:  APL Group, Cisco Systems, CommScope, Marvell, OnSemi, SenTekSe

June 8, 2023 to November 1, 2023: APL Group, Cisco Systems, Marvell, OnSemi, SenTekSe

November 1, 2023 and later: Analog Devices, APL Group, Cisco Systems, Marvell, OnSemi, SenTekSe, and Sony

 

 

 


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